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GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 06:23 AM // 06:23

So, I'm not sure where to post this, but I want to make a suggestion.

Why doesn't GW sell Plat? OK I know I am going to get totally made fun of for this, but I want to hear real reasons and not insults. I have a full time job. I make lots of money but have little time. Why can't I just go to GW, give them 20 buck and get 100k? This would be good for me because I don't have time to farm, but I like to play.

GW would make more money from me and I would enjoy the game more. Is it a crime to only want to play a couple of hours a night? Do I deserve to have crappy armor and weapons because I don't have the time to farm? Wouldn't GW be better off if they let players just buy plat? They would make more money.. Those that don't have the cash, but do have the time could farm to get the money.

I guess I just don't get it... why aren't they taking advantage of an opportunity to make money. Not everyone who likes to play has the time or interest in sitting around for hours to make virtual money.

MMSDome · Apr 20, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25

wow.... I really dont know how to respond to this. Maybe they dont do it because its against their own rules?

FoxBat · Apr 20, 2008, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Yes but other companies don't make such rules and do sell currency, so it's a valid question.

Although alot of american players tend to get teed' off about those with wasteable income buying what they "should" earn for themselves. You don't have the time, you aren't entitled to the loot.

GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 06:29 AM // 06:29

I know that they are very concerned about third parties selling gold, but if they sold their own gold it would get rid of the issue entirely.. put the other guys out of business and then all the $$ would go to arena net.

RedStar · Apr 20, 2008, 06:30 AM // 06:30

Well, maybe it will be too hard to know if this person bought from eBay or their shop lol.

And isn't it against their rules ? (not sure) xD.

GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Yes.. I see your point but if they sold plat then they would know exactly who bought from them and could easily ban others that were trading large amounts of plat. (like they do now)

They would just make a lot more money.. people buy it anyhow.. why not buy from arenanet and then 1) they make more money and 2) We enjoy the game more w/o worry of being banned

Holly Herro · Apr 20, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39

They should sell in-game gold from the in-game store.

That way they wont sell from third-party sites, and if they did it'd be easily dectectable.

shoyon456 · Apr 20, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39

1. Yeah, it probably is against their own conduct rules because it would mutilate the game's economy even more.

2. Crappy armor? Um, last I checked 1.5k armor and 15k/obby armors were the SAME in stats, and therefore you are at no disadvantage play-wise.

3. Anet actually values people playing the game and earning what they have, as opposed to having someone just run your character through prophecies or powerlevel you or anything. They do of course believe in Skill>time ; but be realistic, you cant just have someone else do it for you :P

Vinraith · Apr 20, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Because it would drive off far more customers than it would attract by rendering in-game accomplishment completely meaningless. What's the point of an RPG where you can have anything you want without actually playing the game?

shostopper · Apr 20, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

if you have trouble getting materials for armor then join a helpfull guild and they may have some spare materials that they could let you have or even help you get better armor and weapons in no time

slowerpoke · Apr 20, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

real gold for money? that would devalue ingame gold and break the economy

gold would become so common, it would be worthless, everything ingame would cost 250ectos++
those who could buy gold would, those who cant would be unable to trade with other players/buy anything

gold is earned not bought, L2playfarmtrade

explodemyheart · Apr 20, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by GW GF

GW would make more money from me and I would enjoy the game more. Is it a crime to only want to play a couple of hours a night? Do I deserve to have crappy armor and weapons because I don't have the time to farm?

Honestly, unless you mean non-max items and armor or are simply put off by the look of non-expensive items, there is nothing crappy about max collector items and armor. They serve the exact same purpose as 15k armor and 100k + 9 million ecto items, they're just not as pretty (though that really depends on who you ask).

Why do you need instant gratification? I realize that there are people who cannot spend a whole lot of time playing the game, but perhaps if there's something you would really like to have, figure out how to obtain it and then when you do play, slowly work towards your goal. I didn't get my first set of FoW armor because I made all of the money and ecto and shards overnight, it took me nearly 9 months to save up for it and that was with the help of friends giving me their drops occasionally. I have to say, it's a lot more gratifying, at least in my opinion, to work for what I want instead of having it handed to me.

GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

1: They make the rules, if they want to change the rules, they can

2: This isn't just about armor. This is also about the ability to buy runes, weapons, pets, skills, etc..

3: If they value people earning what they have, why haven't they banned power leveling or running?

Age · Apr 20, 2008, 06:48 AM // 06:48

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Yes but other companies don't make such rules and do sell currency, so it's a valid question.

Although alot of american players tend to get teed' off about those with wasteable income buying what they "should" earn for themselves. You don't have the time, you aren't entitled to the loot.

You mean Americans are against this I thought they would be all for it being the land and opportunity for all.Yes money can buy you anything.

Meat Axe · Apr 20, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

A lot of people don't have the money to spend on in game money. I think a lot of players would be driven away from the game simply because they can't or won't pay real money for in game gold, and therefore are at a disadvantage.

Also, Anet would be constantly generating large sums of money. This would drive the prices of items way up, which would cause numerous problems. Not only would those who don't buy gold have no time to play, since they'd be spending their entire time farming to afford a vial of silver dye, but it would mean all those who do buy gold would start complaining, because they would be forced to buy more and more gold just to keep up with inflation. The only way to rectify this would be for Anet to set specific prices for every single item in the game.

Finally, as far as I know, you don't have to be wealthy to enjoy the game. I have only farmed a handful of times since I started playing two years ago, and I can honestly say my enjoyment of the game has not dropped because of that fact. If anything, it's improved, since I don't exactly enjoy the repetitiveness that farming involves.

GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

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Originally Posted by explodemyheart

Why do you need instant gratification? I realize that there are people who cannot spend a whole lot of time playing the game, but perhaps if there's something you would really like to have, figure out how to obtain it and then when you do play, slowly work towards your goal. I didn't get my first set of FoW armor because I made all of the money and ecto and shards overnight, it took me nearly 9 months to save up for it and that was with the help of friends giving me their drops occasionally. I have to say, it's a lot more gratifying, at least in my opinion, to work for what I want instead of having it handed to me.

Honestly because I want to have fun... there are a crap load of other games out there and if GW isn't fun then I'll go play something else. There is absolutely no reason for me to be loyal to GW.. It is after all a game and games are about fun... not about hours of boring farming just to get a few plat. (hellooo.. since when is farming even remotely interesting??) I'm suggesting a way to make it more interesting for me. And it's a way for anet to make more money.

Toutatis · Apr 20, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

I agree - if ANet did sell game gold it would make sense and make quite a few players happy, but it is a little pointless.

GW is a game mainly focused around player skill. Equipment with max stats is commonly available at rock bottom prices (or for free, if you take advantage of collector NPCs or greens dropped by bosses). You do not need huge amounts of game gold to be able to get a character geared up for maximum combat efficiency.

The game does offer more prestigious equipment at higher prices, but these are functionally identical to their cheap counterparts. They are not necessary to be able to play the game well, and the only benefits they offer is more e-peen for the people who buy them. Moreover, anybody with a strong work ethic will tell you that if you want something special, you will have to work for it.

Furthermore, gold is easy to make in this game in my experience. I don't farm (I find farming to be rather boring) and I still find it easy to make a profit of around 10-15k per day just by questing and selling off any loot that I happen to find. If I were to play for only a couple of hours per night I would still be making at least 5k per session that way.

It might take time to save up for the flashy equipment that you really want, but there's a huge feeling of self satisfaction knowing that you've saved for it yourself - and until you've saved for it, the cheap stuff will offer you exactly the same benefits in combat.

Avarre · Apr 20, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54

I'd be for this, since gold doesn't give you a combatant advantage, it might bring in more profit since GW doesn't benefit from people farming all the time, and material possessions aren't the goal of GW anyway.

Actually be a step back from the generic MMO PvE that seems to be developing in GW. People thinking that farming longer gives, or should give them better stuff is ridiculous. If you've played longer, your advantage is you're a better player.

GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

I have concerns about the economy as well, but if you price the gold high enough, people will make a choice...do I want to spend $100 on 8 plat for that Elite monk tome/Gren Scythe or do I want to take 4 hours (4 days for me as I can only play an hour a day at most) to try and earn the money.

This game rewards people who have an excessive amount of time. Let's make it even and reward people who have an excess amount of money as well.

explodemyheart · Apr 20, 2008, 07:00 AM // 07:00

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Originally Posted by GW GF

Honestly because I want to have fun... there are a crap load of other games out there and if GW isn't fun then I'll go play something else. There is absolutely no reason for me to be loyal to GW.. It is after all a game and games are about fun... not about hours of boring farming just to get a few plat. (hellooo.. since when is farming even remotely interesting??) I'm suggesting a way to make it more interesting for me. And it's a way for anet to make more money.

Then maybe you should just take your toys and go home. It really sounds like GW just isn't the right game for you.

Consider for a second that what you find fun is not what everybody considers fun. Also, consider what Meataxe said. Not everybody is capable of buying gold. That means they're either left with working toward getting the items they want or not getting them. Then that means that that person is not being allowed to have fun how they think the game would be fun.

Hey, how about we just add a bank to the game that gives you as much money as you want for nothing in return. That way everybody can have everything they want without having to work for it. Or not.

And for the record, you hardly have to farm to make a decent amount of money. Playing through EotN on my Paragon, I made almost 22k from picking up all drops. Learn when to merchant an item or sell it to a real person. Learn when it would be more beneficial to sell a rune to the rune trader, or keep it intact with the armor and sell it to the merchant. Learn when it is more beneficial to sell materials to the material trader or the merchant. Then save your money.